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« on: March 04, 2010, 15:50:44 »

this topic is borderline blasphemous and i imagine ill catch hell but screw it im makin it anyway. Anywhore IF you could change one thing on the xcr what would it be? For me I'd like to see the allen lugs or whatever you wanna call them have a positive lock so A. the barrel wont come out which hasnt happened to me but apparently HAS happened before; and also a positive lock would probably keep people like nutnfancy from giving the xcr such negative press about the lugs to begin with. Let me just Emphasize that I love my xcr and i really do feel it is superior to anything else out there. but this is one thing that I can hope for.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 15:53:38 »

1:7 or 1:8 nitrided match barrels.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 16:09:33 »

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 16:20:29 »



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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 16:28:42 »

 I would like the barrel nut to be recessed,plus that whole area recontoured a bit for a good magwell hold.

 That and proper XCR magwell 7.62x39 mags that don't stay straight to conform with the AR magwell.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 16:29:44 »

Anywhore IF you could change one thing on the xcr what would it be?


Freudian slip?





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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 16:32:33 »

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I would like the barrel nut to be recessed,plus that whole area recontoured a bit for a good magwell hold.
You can get a set screw that will work.I don't remember the bolt thread pitch I'll have to ask a friend...
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 16:38:05 »

The finish. There are too many black ones... I say all XCRs should ship in pink.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 17:30:23 »

Anywhore IF you could change one thing on the xcr what would it be?


Freudian slip?


I thought a Freudian slip was when you said one thing, but you meant your mother... Uh, I mean another.




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Want.  At least something like that.  I'm saving for the day... if it ever comes.


I can't think of a lot that I would change.  The new stock would be great, but the current one actually works really well for me. 

If the rifle weighed less than it does, that would be nice, but it's really not unreasonable as is.

The thing that I want to change the most has less to do with the platform and more to do with my financial situation.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 17:30:40 »

The only actual change I see would be some manner of more robust barrel attachment method.  I've never had any issues but it would help with peace of mind and also eliminate an anti-xcr talking point.

Not so much changes as improvements would include the new stock, ambi mag release, and 1/7 or 1/8 barrels.  
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 17:37:17 »

I am against the ambi-mag release, I don't like them on ARs so probably wouldn't want one on an XCR. 
I would howver like a LONGER selector switch (safety). I have been using ARs so long that the shorter XCR switch is uncomfortable- what about the paddle safety they were discussing, any news?
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 18:14:40 »

I know this goes under the  Beating a dead horse. category, but. A lower that is designed to take AK mags!!!!  Rock On!

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 18:21:21 »

I am against the ambi-mag release, I don't like them on ARs so probably wouldn't want one on an XCR. 
I would howver like a LONGER selector switch (safety). I have been using ARs so long that the shorter XCR switch is uncomfortable- what about the paddle safety they were discussing, any news?

Even as a righty I'd like to have the option for a ambi-mag release if nothing else than for when my range buddy shoots it (lefty)
But I would definitely agree on a longer fire selector...I'm in the same boat as you, been using ARs forever, a standard size selector would feel more at home to me.



Anywhore IF you could change one thing on the xcr what would it be?


Freudian slip?


I thought a Freudian slip was when you said one thing, but you meant your mother... Uh, I mean another.




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Want.  At least something like that.  I'm saving for the day... if it ever comes.


I can't think of a lot that I would change.  The new stock would be great, but the current one actually works really well for me. 

If the rifle weighed less than it does, that would be nice, but it's really not unreasonable as is.

The thing that I want to change the most has less to do with the platform and more to do with my financial situation.

THIS.

And yeah Photoshop is my friend Cheesy

I will admit, I was very interested when Magpul announced the Masada, then I heard that Bushmaster had ahold of producing it and I knew it was doomed...in all honesty, I'm still interested in the ACR, but nowhere near what they are asking for it...I had a chance to fondle the stock at SHOT this year and did like its design.

At this rate the new XCR stock will be out long before we see the ACR I think, especially with BM missing its own deadlines and all  Duh
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 18:27:25 »

Toolless takedown.  Lightweight gas system.  Slightly longer safety switch.  Allow the upper to pivot fully open on the forward pin.

New stock, and some sort of detent to keep it from flopping around when folded might be nice.  Just not anything you have to manually release.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2010, 18:31:21 »

I am against the ambi-mag release, I don't like them on ARs so probably wouldn't want one on an XCR. 
I would howver like a LONGER selector switch (safety). I have been using ARs so long that the shorter XCR switch is uncomfortable- what about the paddle safety they were discussing, any news?

It was longer. That was the old style. The new paddle style safety is the one with shorter arms. The feedback on it has been very positive... it's been shipping for almost a year now.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2010, 18:31:41 »

from what was said earlier a recessed allen lug would be sweet OR none at all.. the army i dont think would ever take something that had lugs like that.. theyd probably see it as too many possible fail points so either lock those nuts down LOL or get rid of them id imagine
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2010, 22:00:41 »

No cup holder. Where am I supposed to put my Latte whilst engaging steel?

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2010, 22:15:03 »

The round portion of the charge handle slide assembly needs to be bigger (thicker) and the charging handle shaft thicker so as to take more stress when trying to retract the bolt when it is locked forward by a round stuck in the chamber so it would be less likely to break and put the rifle out of commission like mine.  If only I had remembered to "pogo" my rifle to remove the stuck round, I might not have damaged those parts and put my XCR out of commission.   
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2010, 23:03:30 »

- Robinson-made and fully tested 7.62x39mm mags (that fit the current magwell) that have a constant curvature and function 100% which would make the XCR in that caliber a true modern day replacement for the AK-47.
- Bolt H.O./release control paddle (or whatever it's called) coated with a rubber-like material or made out of polymer to keep it from making the metal-on-metal dinging noise that it does.
- Better "marketing." See Magpul, LWRC.
- A cooler name that isn't just a generic acronym... e.g. like "Masada" or "Massoud." It would help with the marketing aspect. Tongue  Wink
- A website that is up to date, especially with parts/order info.
- Convenient quick-detach sling swivel points/holes built into the side picatinny rails like you see in a lot of new AR rail systems.
- A tighter, more secure way to close the upper/lower than the current rear latch provides.
- Some small design refinements if possible that would make the op rod & bolt carrier stay together when being removed from the rifle & some way to keep these parts from sliding out so easily (other than just gravity) with the upper tilted open.
- A collapsible front sight that attaches to the top of the gas block as was meant to be from the beginning.
- Individual engraved drawings on each rifle done by Terra.

As mentioned by others:
- More secure way to attach the barrel while still keeping it easily user-removable/replaceable
- Upper tilts open wider
- THE NEW STOCK (as long as it isn't something ugly like the SCAR stock)
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2010, 23:10:22 »

Maybe a little lighter on the front end, but other wise just the way it is... Cool
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2010, 23:12:34 »

Perhaps its just me...but I wouldn't mind if the XCR had milspec 1913 rails
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2010, 23:28:28 »

Yes, its just you.

Everything I have tried has worked.
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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2010, 23:31:14 »

Yes, its just you.

Everything I have tried has worked.

KAC Rails? Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 00:12:33 »

Why would you add  "KAC rails"  when the XCR already comes with machined rails Huh?

Perhaps you actually mean  'KAC rail covers' ?

I don't use them as I ordered the rail covers that Robarms offered for the XCR.

Other people seem to use KAC rail covers on the XCR.

There again, other people have problems installing them on other weapons.

Have you ever considered that the KAC rail covers are out of spec ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010, 00:45:26 »

Anywhore IF you could change one thing on the xcr what would it be?


Freudian slip?


I thought a Freudian slip was when you said one thing, but you meant your mother... Uh, I mean another.


Two friends were having a beer when one says to the other,
"Ya know the other day I was talking to my wife and I had a freudian slip."
The other guy stops and stares and says, "A what?"
"A freudian slip. You know, when you say one thing but you meant to say the other?"
The guys asks, "What do you mean?"
He says, "For example, my wife and I were at the ticket counter at the airport, and the girl behind the counter had a huge rack. I meant to say can I have two tickets to Pittsburgh, but instead ended up asking for two tickets to Titsburgh."
"Ohhhh..." says his buddy. "I had one just this morning. I was at breakfast with my wife and what I MEANT to say was honey could you please pass the milk, but what came out was YOU BITCH YOU RUINED MY LIFE!!!" Grin
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