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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 03:13:19 » |
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Yeah I read that too. For 300, yards and under, the 6x45 is hard to beat. It is also SIMPLE to reload making it a nice caliber. Their .264 is ALMOST the same as the 6.5 Grendle as it will chamber and fire safely in a 6.5 Grendel. It seems like Les and Bill Alexander must have had a falling out???
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 07:51:45 » |
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Speaking of the 6x45,is there any chance in hell we might see a barrel by next hunting season?
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 08:11:12 » |
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Who has dies for it?
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 09:12:16 » |
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I believe the 6x45 is the same as the 6mm-223, in which case Hornady makes those dies.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 09:44:40 » |
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I believe the 6x45 is the same as the 6mm-223, in which case Hornady makes those dies. http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w6x45mm.html |
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 10:38:53 » |
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I for one would like to know how this round would perform on deer? With either 16 or 18.6-20 inch barrels.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 11:51:40 » |
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I for one would like to know how this round would perform on deer? With either 16 or 18.6-20 inch barrels. As with any round,shot placement is key.In my opinion though it should be excellent medicine for medium size game.I've seen the 7.62x39 do some nasty things to whitetails.I'm not advocating doing this,but in some cull hunts we've had locally a .22 Hornet can be extremely surprising and lethal.Think of the 6x45/6mm-223 as a 243 light.Speaking of that a friend of mine has a .243 handy rifle for his son,for some reason (I suppose the extremely light weight) it kicks worse than some 30 cals I've fired.So he has downloaded some .243 rounds for him to use and they kill Bambi with boring regularity using them.Using 90-100 grain well constructed bullets it should be fine deer medicine.  |
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 12:49:24 » |
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I have been shooting the 6mm/.223 (5x45) since the Navy & Air Force tested it in the '60s. It has killed many deer in a humane manner if I did my job. If the groups weren't good the benchrest folks would not have used it for one of their choices for years. It is easy and cheap to make and a great choice for women and teens as it is not a "flinch maker." Robinson should have jumped on this one a long time ago. Hell they could have made up 100 barrels or so at a go. I will bet they would sell out fast.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 15:26:47 » |
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Their .264 is ALMOST the same as the 6.5 Grendle as it will chamber and fire safely in a 6.5 Grendel.
Aren't the 264 LBC and 6.5 Grendel cartridges identical? I thought it's only the chamber dimensions in which there are minor differences. It seems like Les and Bill Alexander must have had a falling out???
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 15:29:05 » |
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I have been shooting the 6mm/.223 (5x45) since the Navy & Air Force tested it in the '60s.
Can you cite a source for that claim? |
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 19:04:14 » |
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No problem with the thread hijack, I was hoping for interesting discussion.
Does anyone have any references to the actual difference, if any between .264 LBC and 6.5 Grendel?
And, as I have mentioned before, I'd still like to see the 6.5 MPC be a player if it will get me a 6.5 bullet coming out of my XCR.
6x45 is a nice option too, anything that will get the bullet weight up to 100-125 grains in a more aerodynamic form than the ones for 7.62x39.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2010, 23:16:10 » |
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No problem with the thread hijack, I was hoping for interesting discussion.
Does anyone have any references to the actual difference, if any between .264 LBC and 6.5 Grendel?
The cartridges are the same, except for the name. There are small differences in chamber neck. See discussion at: http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=7318And, as I have mentioned before, I'd still like to see the 6.5 MPC be a player if it will get me a 6.5 bullet coming out of my XCR.
Another 6.5 option might be the old .264 Warrior Magnum, which is apparently being resurrected: http://warriorarms.com/-Q638.html |
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2010, 20:24:56 » |
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Come on RobArms, I want my Grendel rifle.. or .264, whatever, if it'll fire the 120 6.5 Wolf Goldline MPT (actually Prvi Partisan) accurately like the AA guns, I'm set
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2010, 11:15:35 » |
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Putting together a 6.5 Grendel or equivalent is not that challenging. I can't see why RobArm has had so much trouble, unless there is some kind of flaw in the XCR bolt or lockup designs.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2010, 01:39:53 » |
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MickeyC, I agree, what is the problem? Several manufactures. AA be damed, are producing components for the 6.5 Grendel already that seem to be working. WTF?
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2010, 08:28:07 » |
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The only thing Bill Alexander owns in the name Grendel becasue he didn't invent the round. He co-developed it. If it works in an AR but not the 'superior' XCR, something has got to be wrong. Even Model 1 offers a 6.5 barrel these days.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2010, 15:37:32 » |
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