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Yeah, it sounds mechanically seized, as in something got wedged in there somehow. Unless you really made an error in the choice of an adhesive or some other kind of caustic substance over a lubricant/cleaning solvent I don't think it would have corrosion to blame. The Wolf lacquer on the cases shouldn't gum it up that bad.
What does everyone think about this? Could it be possible to loosen the barrel screw, slide the gas block forward and rotate the barrel until the lugs line up to remove it? This might also help loosen up whatever is binding the bolt I'd think.
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"Then there are the celebrities. What a senseless, empty concept for someone to be, as my friend the great historian Daniel Boorstin put it, 'known for his well-knowness'. How many live-ins, how many trips to rehab, maybe-wow-you could even get arrested! All this can catapult an attractive youngster to the front ranks of the media, there to be consulted on the drought in the Sahel, the benefits of omega-3 fatty acids, etc." Carrying the Fire, Michael Collins-Apollo 11 CMP
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2009, 18:26:59 » |
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i think its safe to say, i didnt spray it down with ez-off by mistake .i haved cleaned ALL my guns while i tinkered on the xcr and i am more baffled now than before...i dont give up offen...but i think im going to say...piss on it.. check out some MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL !!!
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2009, 05:01:38 » |
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M118sb,you might have something there.I think if you could put the barrel in a padded vice then just try to turn the receiver a bit it should break loose the bolt from the barrel extension.Now I don't mean gutwrenching torque,just kind of work it back and forth a bit and see if it pops loose.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2009, 07:38:10 » |
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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2009, 08:23:37 » |
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Yeah, it sounds mechanically seized, as in something got wedged in there somehow. Unless you really made an error in the choice of an adhesive or some other kind of caustic substance over a lubricant/cleaning solvent I don't think it would have corrosion to blame. The Wolf lacquer on the cases shouldn't gum it up that bad.
What does everyone think about this? Could it be possible to loosen the barrel screw, slide the gas block forward and rotate the barrel until the lugs line up to remove it? This might also help loosen up whatever is binding the bolt I'd think.
I wondered about this, too. I've seen the rim on Wolf shells torn completely off by the extractor. I suppose it's possible something like that happened and the metal is wedged under/around the bolt carrier somehow? Though since it was still working when he last cleaned it, it would seem to indicate this isn't the case. I'm definitely interested in seeing the solution to this one. |
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2009, 10:41:28 » |
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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2009, 10:57:20 » |
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pogo-ed the crap out of it..got i soaking in blaster right now...went to hardware store to get wooden dowel but no luck there..hate to use a cleaning rod but i cut a piece of bicycle tire and might have to use it on the end of a cleaning rod??
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2009, 11:01:32 » |
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Assuming the round inside is fired and what remains is an empty case. Split the upper and lower.
Remove the recoil spring and guide.
Oil the crap out of the lower using break free or a penetrating oil and let it sit for a few minutes. Use a whole can in case there is debris stuck in the upper half.
Put a cleaning rod down the barrel and standing with one foot putting light pressure on the charging handle tap the end of the rod with a hammer driving the case backwards. you need pressure on the charging handle to help unlock the bolt as simply pushing back on the case should not unlock it.
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2009, 11:06:30 » |
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thats about what i had planned...just going to let it sit for awhile and let the blaster do its job....
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2009, 12:04:35 » |
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Assuming the round inside is fired and what remains is an empty case. Split the upper and lower.
Remove the recoil spring and guide.
Oil the crap out of the lower using break free or a penetrating oil and let it sit for a few minutes. Use a whole can in case there is debris stuck in the upper half.
Put a cleaning rod down the barrel and standing with one foot putting light pressure on the charging handle tap the end of the rod with a hammer driving the case backwards. you need pressure on the charging handle to help unlock the bolt as simply pushing back on the case should not unlock it.
If this doesn't work send it to Terra. That's why I was thinking pressure from the front of the gas piston would work. There's not a whole lot to damage up there too. |
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« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2009, 12:45:09 » |
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That will work, but you don't want to mar the piston, plus the barrel provides a nice long guide for the rod.
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« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2009, 17:24:33 » |
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If you cleaned it and racked the action before you put it away how is it a stuck case?
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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2009, 18:43:33 » |
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Broken extractor + not punching the bore.
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« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2009, 19:29:59 » |
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Broken extractor + not punching the bore.
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« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2009, 20:00:16 » |
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No, no, no. I was responding to Underground's question.
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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2009, 20:13:59 » |
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Broken extractor + not punching the bore.
If it is a broken extractor, I will eat a white dog turd. I understand those are very rare... |
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2009, 20:16:15 » |
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I read recently that dog turds used to be white to to the higher levels of bleached flour in dog food. The bleach in the flour was what turned them white.
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2009, 21:08:00 » |
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I read recently that dog turds used to be white to to the higher levels of bleached flour in dog food. The bleach in the flour was what turned them white.
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"Then there are the celebrities. What a senseless, empty concept for someone to be, as my friend the great historian Daniel Boorstin put it, 'known for his well-knowness'. How many live-ins, how many trips to rehab, maybe-wow-you could even get arrested! All this can catapult an attractive youngster to the front ranks of the media, there to be consulted on the drought in the Sahel, the benefits of omega-3 fatty acids, etc." Carrying the Fire, Michael Collins-Apollo 11 CMP
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« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2009, 07:42:45 » |
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The PB Blaster will take care of any corrosion/rust in there, it makes taking an O2 sensor off after 60K miles easy. I would soak it good with the blaster then use a dowel on the bolt face a few times. If that doesn't work send it to Terra.
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« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2009, 11:09:03 » |
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FLH3,
Have you gotten this problem corrected? Have you sent your upper to RobArms?
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« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2009, 15:37:02 » |
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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2009, 15:40:13 » |
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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2009, 16:18:01 » |
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i got busy..havent had time to mess with it...when i get it figured out ill be sure to let you guys/gals know..
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2009, 21:05:12 » |
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"Then there are the celebrities. What a senseless, empty concept for someone to be, as my friend the great historian Daniel Boorstin put it, 'known for his well-knowness'. How many live-ins, how many trips to rehab, maybe-wow-you could even get arrested! All this can catapult an attractive youngster to the front ranks of the media, there to be consulted on the drought in the Sahel, the benefits of omega-3 fatty acids, etc." Carrying the Fire, Michael Collins-Apollo 11 CMP
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« Reply #49 on: September 16, 2009, 01:55:43 » |
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Bump...cause its 13 days later
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