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Robinson Armament XCR semi auto 5.56 PDW Test Fire Video. Shooters were LEO and military. Alex wanted to know how battered the action gets by the PDW platform
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"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." - Gen. Robert Barrow, USMC (1980) www.xcrcarbine.com
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 18:01:43 » |
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On my Jesus rifle Trijicon scope, John 12:46 "I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness."
I say Trijicon kicks ass and should continue the practice of placing biblical passages on all scopes!!!
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 20:15:24 » |
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Pretty sweet. Did someone say they actually liked the trigger on it?
Awesome work catching the brass with the cardboard box too. I wish my buddies would do that for me.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 21:45:20 » |
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I am sure someone did say they like the trigger as it must have been running the new match trigger. MadDog 
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 23:07:26 » |
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One shooter sure was fast on the trigger. If VB hadn't said that it's a semi-auto gun, I'd have thought he was firing full-auto! 
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 23:21:40 » |
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Uhhh....guilty of the "select fire finger". For the record, it really was the "new" semi auto trigger group.
The gentleman that commented about his liking the trigger was being genuine, as know he had know idea that his might end up on the web(I know I didn't)
After probably 450-550 rounds(we shot 2K) I can personally attest that this trigger gives up NOTHING to high end AR triggers in terms of feel, reset, overtravel, etc. This trigger is absolutely...SUPERB!!
Moreover, it should be far more robust and reliable than AR "match" triggers. I know several individuals that have had "doubling" issues with RRA NM triggers in as few as 1.5K rds.
You asked...and the Lords of Weapondom at RRA have delivered. Praise be! The new trigger should come with Doritos, because it is all that.....
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 00:00:53 » |
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Oh great I finally get an XCR and think I have finally got "THE" weapon. Now it's going to need a sibling!!! Oh the humanity... 
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 00:04:24 » |
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For the record, my spelling skills are typically stellar....my typing skills, however, are not. Typos aside, the guy making the comment has "been there, done that, worn the T-shirt out and now uses it to clean his guns" with regard to the tactical LE community. He liked it so much, that he bought an XCR from 0313.
For those of you looking for rifles in stock, check with Doug's Shoot'n Sports in Taylorsville, UT. You may find local pawnshops receptive to handling the transfer at your locale for $25-50.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 02:13:56 » |
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For the record, my spelling skills are typically stellar....my typing skills, however, are not. Typos aside, the guy making the comment has "been there, done that, worn the T-shirt out and now uses it to clean his guns" with regard to the tactical LE community. He liked it so much, that he bought an XCR from 0313.
For those of you looking for rifles in stock, check with Doug's Shoot'n Sports in Taylorsville, UT. You may find local pawnshops receptive to handling the transfer at your locale for $25-50.
Where do we get those T-shirts they sound pretty cool? 
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On my Jesus rifle Trijicon scope, John 12:46 "I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness."
I say Trijicon kicks ass and should continue the practice of placing biblical passages on all scopes!!!
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 03:24:41 » |
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I'm working on a source for those shirts. As you might imagine, they are difficult to find, more difficult to buy, and stop bullets better than Lvl V Dragon Skin. They also make swell gun cleaning rags once they have reached the end of their product life cycle. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2009, 21:08:32 » |
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Three comments and a question...
1. Great example of a "lefty" using the gun (see video at 0:30-0:35) 2. Two different shooters, holding it very steady, showing how low the recoil is (see 1:20-1:30 & 2:00) 3. Darn, wish I could join that shoot, looks like fun!
Is this the "prototype PDW" that we had seen in pics on this forum or is it a new version being soon released for sale?
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2009, 21:36:00 » |
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 Enough already! It won't ship for months, it will take ATF months to process the paper work! I will be snowing again before anyone gets their hands on one. Ahhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrg!  I guess I should SBR my lower now.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2009, 15:35:57 » |
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As soon as I get my HK USP Elite paid for then I will be saving up for an NFA trust and SBRing my XCR. As soon as the PDW upper is available it will be on my rifle.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2009, 18:04:15 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2009, 21:16:10 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
Alright, who wants to tell us how to do that again? 
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 22:52:58 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
Alright, who wants to tell us how to do that again?  Fill out ATF papers Get two finger prints Fill out check for $200 Get two passport photos Fill out some citizenship form Mail to ATF. That should do it.
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2009, 23:59:58 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
Alright, who wants to tell us how to do that again?  Fill out ATF papers Get two finger prints Fill out check for $200 Get two passport photos Fill out some citizenship form Mail to ATF. That should do it. Or get an NFA trust and forgo the CLEO and fingerprints.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2009, 01:06:09 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
Alright, who wants to tell us how to do that again?  Fill out ATF papers Get two finger prints Fill out check for $200 Get two passport photos Fill out some citizenship form Mail to ATF. That should do it. Or get an NFA trust and forgo the CLEO and fingerprints. I forgot about that. You need the CLEO sig before you mail anything off.
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2009, 13:27:39 » |
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Dont wait to SBR your guns people. It's a 4 month turn around currently
Alright, who wants to tell us how to do that again?  Fill out ATF papers Get two finger prints Fill out check for $200 Get two passport photos Fill out some citizenship form Mail to ATF. That should do it. Or get an NFA trust and forgo the CLEO and fingerprints. I forgot about that. You need the CLEO sig before you mail anything off. Are you sure about that with the trust? I thought getting the trust forgoes all that.
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2009, 15:43:10 » |
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When using a Trust it is not required that your fingerprints or CLEO signature be submitted. A copy of the Trust, 2 copies of the Form 1 or 4 (front and back) and applicant signature, $200 and date.
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2009, 00:28:43 » |
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ABSOLUTELY NO fingerprints, CLEO signature, and picture required when doing a Trust, LLC, or CORP. MadDog  ETA: The time it takes to get your stamped forms back varries and I believe it depends on the examiner and how you submit your forms. All of my Form1's and Form4's have been submitted under an LLC. The longest it has ever taken my forms mailbox to mailbox was 10 weeks . The shortest has been 21 days. Maybe I am just lucky, or maybe it is the LLC. I don't know.
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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2009, 01:30:26 » |
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Three comments and a question...
1. Great example of a "lefty" using the gun (see video at 0:30-0:35) 2. Two different shooters, holding it very steady, showing how low the recoil is (see 1:20-1:30 & 2:00) 3. Darn, wish I could join that shoot, looks like fun!
Is this the "prototype PDW" that we had seen in pics on this forum or is it a new version being soon released for sale?
LOL! the 1:20-1:30 is me and that little sucker is very controllable, I shot it like a handgun making consistent hits at 100yds. I will try and get some more video during the next shoot.
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On my Jesus rifle Trijicon scope, John 12:46 "I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness."
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2009, 10:51:17 » |
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Mad Dog Dan can you explain in more detail about the trust and LLC filing for an SBR. Is it a particular type of LLC business???IE does it have to be a firearm related business??? I already have an LLC set up but it's not in the firearms industry. I am interested in doing this please let me know.
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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2009, 17:53:50 » |
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dmac27: It does not have to be a firearms related LLC. Any current & valid LLC will do but you must keep it current. If you ever disolve the LLC your NFA items will have to either be transfered (at $200 per transfer) to a private party or another LLC, Corp, or Trust. My LLC does not do any kind of business and doesn't have any employees other then me (single member LLC) so I have no tax implications. Another down side to an LLC that acts as another main business is that if you get sued for your assets your NFA items qualify as assets and you may be forced to liquidate them. That is why my LLC does no business other than collecting NFA items. I originally set my LLC up because the local CLEO would not sign paperwork for any NFA items. If I had to do it all over again I would go the Trust route. With the LLC all you are required to do is send in your Form1 or Form4 in duplicate with duplicate Citizenship forms (yes your LLC goes under the name of the "citizen" and your name is put down as the LLC's agent), a copy of your articles of incorporation, your $200 check and that's it. No pictures, no fingerprints, & no CLEO sign off. I find that my tax stamps have come back rather fast and I attribute it to the LLC a aposed to an individual. The shortest my forms have taken has been 21 days mailbox to mailbox and the longest was 64 days mailbox to mailbox. I just had the tax stamp for my Destructive Device approved in 42 days this past March. Hope this helps, MadDog
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2009, 18:27:25 » |
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Thanks Dan,
I also am the only employee in my company. I am an independent sales rep for a granite fabrication shop in Phoenix. Technically I only have one customer. So I may go that route...I had never heard of that. Thanks for the response I appreciate it.
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